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<\/p>\nNh\u00e0 v\u0103n ng\u01b0\u1eddi Na Uy Jon Fosse, ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u00e3 nh\u1eadn gi\u1ea3i Nobel V\u0103n ch\u01b0\u01a1ng v\u00e0o th\u1ee9 N\u0103m ng\u00e0y 7\/12\/2023 t\u1ea1i Stockholm, \u0111\u00e3 d\u00e0nh m\u1ed9t cu\u1ed9c ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n \u0111\u1ed9c quy\u1ec1n cho nh\u1eadt b\u00e1o La Croix. \u00d4ng \u0111\u1ec1 c\u1eadp \u0111\u1ebfn t\u00ednh ph\u1ed5 qu\u00e1t c\u1ee7a t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng, \u0111\u1ebfn \u0111\u1ee9c tin C\u00f4ng gi\u00e1o m\u00e0 \u00f4ng tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i v\u00e0o n\u0103m 2012, \u0111\u1ebfn \u0111i\u1ec1u kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 di\u1ec5n t\u1ea3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c v\u00e0 \u0111i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00e3 khi\u1ebfn \u00f4ng vi\u1ebft kh\u00f4ng m\u1ec7t m\u1ecfi k\u1ec3 t\u1eeb n\u0103m 12 tu\u1ed5i.<\/p>\n
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La Croix:<\/strong> Ngay sau khi bi\u1ebft tin \u00f4ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c nh\u1eadn gi\u1ea3i Nobel, \u00f4ng \u0111\u00e3 n\u00f3i b\u1ecb \u201c\u0111\u00e8 n\u1eb7ng v\u00e0 g\u1ea7n nh\u01b0 s\u1ee3 h\u00e3i\u201d. H\u00f4m nay <\/em>\u00f4ng<\/em> v\u1eabn s\u1ebd n\u00f3i \u0111i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3 ch\u1ee9?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> T\u00f4i \u0111ang l\u00e1i xe th\u00ec th\u01b0 k\u00fd th\u01b0\u1eddng tr\u1ef1c c\u1ee7a Vi\u1ec7n H\u00e0n l\u00e2m Nobel cho t\u00f4i bi\u1ebft tin n\u00e0y qua \u0111i\u1ec7n tho\u1ea1i. Ph\u1ea3n \u1ee9ng \u0111\u1ea7u ti\u00ean c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i l\u00e0 r\u1ea5t vui m\u1eebng. R\u1ed3i t\u00f4i t\u1ef1 h\u1ecfi li\u1ec7u n\u00f3 c\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 s\u1ef1 th\u1eadt kh\u00f4ng. M\u1ed9t m\u1eb7t, t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 chu\u1ea9n b\u1ecb s\u1eb5n s\u00e0ng v\u00ec t\u00ean c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c nh\u1eafc \u0111\u1ebfn trong c\u00e1c cu\u1ed9c th\u1ea3o lu\u1eadn h\u01a1n m\u01b0\u1eddi n\u0103m nay. M\u1eb7t kh\u00e1c, t\u00f4i l\u1ea1i s\u1ee3.<\/p>\n \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t ph\u1ea7n th\u01b0\u1edfng l\u00e0m bi\u1ebfn \u0111\u1ed5i m\u1ed9t cu\u1ed9c \u0111\u1eddi. B\u1ea1n thay \u0111\u1ed5i \u0111\u1ecba v\u1ecb x\u00e3 h\u1ed9i c\u1ee7a m\u00ecnh, nh\u1eadn \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c th\u1ec9nh c\u1ea7u t\u1eeb m\u1ecdi h\u01b0\u1edbng. N\u00f3 c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t g\u00e1nh n\u1eb7ng v\u00e0 b\u1ea1n c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 \u0111\u00e1nh m\u1ea5t ch\u00ednh m\u00ecnh. Nh\u01b0ng v\u00ec \u0111\u00e3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c t\u00f4n vinh v\u1edbi t\u01b0 c\u00e1ch l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t nh\u00e0 vi\u1ebft k\u1ecbch, t\u00f4i h\u1ecdc c\u00e1ch b\u1ea3o v\u1ec7 b\u1ea3n th\u00e2n v\u00e0 kh\u00f4ng n\u00f3i \u201cv\u00e2ng\u201d v\u1edbi m\u1ecdi th\u1ee9. T\u00f4i bi\u1ebft t\u00f4i s\u1ebd c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 gi\u1eef kho\u1ea3ng c\u00e1ch.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> Gi\u1ea3i Nobel V\u0103n h\u1ecdc trao th\u01b0\u1edfng cho m\u1ed9t t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m v\u00ec t\u1ea7m m\u1ee9c ph\u1ed5 qu\u00e1t c\u1ee7a n\u00f3. Tuy nhi\u00ean, \u00f4ng vi\u1ebft b\u1eb1ng ti\u1ebfng Nynorsk, m\u1ed9t ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c ch\u01b0a t\u1edbi 500.000 ng\u01b0\u1eddi s\u1eed d\u1ee5ng, v\u00e0 \u00f4ng g\u1eafn nh\u1eefng t\u01b0\u1edfng t\u01b0\u1ee3ng c\u1ee7a m\u00ecnh v\u1edbi phong c\u1ea3nh Na Uy. Chuy\u1ec7n phi th\u01b0\u1eddng n\u00e0y c\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 ngu\u1ed3n t\u1ef1 h\u00e0o c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> Nh\u1eefng cu\u1ed9c d\u00e0n d\u1ef1ng s\u00e2n kh\u1ea5u r\u1ea5t tuy\u1ec7t v\u1eddi c\u00e1c v\u1edf k\u1ecbch c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i v\u1ed1n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c th\u1ef1c hi\u1ec7n b\u00ean ngo\u00e0i Na Uy, \u1edf Th\u01b0\u1ee3ng H\u1ea3i, Tokyo, \u0111\u00e3 cho th\u1ea5y r\u1eb1ng s\u1ef1 hi\u1ec3u bi\u1ebft s\u00e2u s\u1eafc v\u1ec1 t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i l\u00e0 c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 th\u00f4ng qua m\u1ed9t b\u1ea3n d\u1ecbch, \u1edf m\u1ed9t n\u1ec1n v\u0103n h\u00f3a kh\u00e1c v\u00e0 b\u1edfi m\u1ed9t th\u1ebf h\u1ec7 kh\u00e1c. T\u00f4i \u0111\u00e1nh gi\u00e1 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c n\u00f3 l\u1ea7n \u0111\u1ea7u ti\u00ean v\u00e0o n\u0103m 1999, khi \u0111\u1ea1o di\u1ec5n ng\u01b0\u1eddi Ph\u00e1p Claude R\u00e9gy d\u00e0n d\u1ef1ng v\u1edf k\u1ecbch \u201cM\u1ed9t ai \u0111\u00f3 s\u1eafp \u0111\u1ebfn\u201d c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i. \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t kinh nghi\u1ec7m tuy\u1ec7t v\u1eddi. Ngo\u00e0i ra, c\u0169ng ph\u1ea3i n\u00f3i r\u1eb1ng, n\u1ebfu ti\u1ebfng Nynorsk ch\u1ec9 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c 500.000 ng\u01b0\u1eddi s\u1eed d\u1ee5ng, th\u00ec ng\u01b0\u1eddi Scandinavi c\u0169ng c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 hi\u1ec3u \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c v\u00ec ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef Scandinavi r\u1ea5t g\u1ea7n.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> \u0110\u00e2y ch\u1eb3ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 b\u1eb1ng ch\u1ee9ng cho th\u1ea5y, \u0111\u1ec3 v\u01b0\u1ee3t qua bi\u00ean gi\u1edbi, m\u1ed9t t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m ph\u1ea3i c\u00f3 t\u00ednh \u0111\u1ed9c \u0111\u00e1o?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng m\u1ed7i con ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1ec1u c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 \u0111\u1ed9c \u0111\u00e1o v\u00e0 \u0111\u1ed3ng th\u1eddi, m\u1ed7i con ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1ec1u c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 t\u01b0\u01a1ng t\u1ef1. Nh\u00e0 v\u0103n l\u00e0 ng\u01b0\u1eddi chuy\u1ec3n th\u1ec3 t\u00ednh \u0111\u1ed9c \u0111\u00e1o v\u00e0 t\u00ednh ph\u1ed5 qu\u00e1t n\u00e0y th\u00e0nh v\u0103n h\u1ecdc trong c\u00f9ng m\u1ed9t chuy\u1ec3n \u0111\u1ed9ng. B\u1ea1n c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 d\u1ec5 d\u00e0ng nh\u1eadn ra n\u00f3 v\u00e0, \u0111\u1ed3ng th\u1eddi, hi\u1ec3u \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c n\u00f3 nhi\u1ec1u n\u0103m sau \u0111\u00f3.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> Theo Vi\u1ec7n H\u00e0n l\u00e2m Nobel, th\u00f4ng qua c\u00e1c v\u1edf k\u1ecbch v\u00e0 ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng, \u00f4ng \u0111\u00e3 \u201cmang l\u1ea1i ti\u1ebfng n\u00f3i cho nh\u1eefng \u0111i\u1ec1u kh\u00f3 t\u1ea3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c\u201d. \u0110i\u1ec1u kh\u00f3 t\u1ea3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c l\u00e0 g\u00ec?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> T\u00f4i ngh\u0129 ch\u00ednh v\u00ec c\u00f3 nhi\u1ec1u \u0111i\u1ec1u r\u1ea5t kh\u00f3 di\u1ec5n t\u1ea3 b\u1eb1ng l\u1eddi m\u00e0 v\u0103n h\u1ecdc t\u1ed3n t\u1ea1i. Vi\u1ebft v\u0103n cho ph\u00e9p n\u00f3i nh\u1eefng \u0111i\u1ec1u kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c n\u00f3i b\u1eb1ng b\u1ea5t k\u1ef3 c\u00e1ch n\u00e0o kh\u00e1c. \u0110\u1ed1i v\u1edbi t\u00f4i, \u0111\u00e2y ch\u00ednh l\u00e0 \u00fd ngh\u0129a c\u1ee7a v\u0103n h\u1ecdc k\u1ec3 t\u1eeb khi t\u00f4i b\u1eaft \u0111\u1ea7u vi\u1ebft v\u0103n. N\u1ebfu b\u1ea1n c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 di\u1ec5n \u0111\u1ea1t \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 m\u1ed9t c\u00e1ch \u0111\u01a1n gi\u1ea3n v\u00e0 tr\u1ef1c ti\u1ebfp, th\u00ec t\u1ea1i sao l\u1ea1i vi\u1ebft m\u1ed9t b\u00e0i th\u01a1, m\u1ed9t cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft, m\u1ed9t v\u1edf k\u1ecbch? \u0110i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3 kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 \u00fd ngh\u0129a.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> \u0110\u00e2u l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng \u201c\u0111i\u1ec1u\u201d c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 r\u1ea5t kh\u00f3 di\u1ec5n t\u1ea3 n\u00e0y ? C\u1ea3m x\u00fac?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> V\u00e2ng, c\u1ea3m x\u00fac. Nh\u01b0ng c\u0169ng c\u00f3 \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 m\u00e0 b\u1ea1n nh\u1eadn th\u1ee9c \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c, m\u1ed9t lo\u1ea1i ki\u1ebfn \u200b\u200bth\u1ee9c, s\u1ef1 v\u1eafng m\u1eb7t c\u1ee7a nghi ng\u1edd, m\u1ed9t d\u1ea1ng hi\u1ec3u bi\u1ebft m\u00e0 b\u1ea1n \u0111\u1ea1t \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c th\u00f4ng qua c\u1ea3m x\u00fac. V\u1edbi t\u01b0 c\u00e1ch l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t t\u00edn h\u1eefu, t\u00f4i c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t lo\u1ea1i \u0111\u1ee9c tin, m\u1ed9t \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 b\u00ean trong m\u00e0 t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 di\u1ec5n t\u1ea3 b\u1eb1ng v\u00e0i l\u1eddi.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> \u00d4ng \u0111\u00e3 gia nh\u1eadp \u0111\u1ea1o C\u00f4ng gi\u00e1o v\u00e0o n\u0103m 2012. \u00d4ng \u0111\u00e3 t\u00ecm th\u1ea5y \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u1edf \u0111\u00f3 m\u00e0 \u00f4ng \u0111\u00e3 kh\u00f4ng t\u00ecm th\u1ea5y \u1edf n\u01a1i kh\u00e1c?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> T\u00f4i l\u1edbn l\u00ean trong Gi\u00e1o h\u1ed9i Tin L\u00e0nh Luther tr\u01b0\u1edbc khi r\u1eddi b\u1ecf n\u00f3 \u1edf tu\u1ed5i 16. Cu\u1ed1i c\u00f9ng, t\u00f4i gh\u00e9t Gi\u00e1o h\u1ed9i n\u00e0y, n\u01a1i v\u1ecb m\u1ee5c s\u01b0 tin r\u1eb1ng \u00f4ng \u1ea5y c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 kh\u1eafc s\u00e2u v\u00e0o tr\u00ed n\u00e3o b\u1ea1n m\u1ed9t s\u1ef1 th\u1eadt v\u1ed1n kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i nh\u01b0 v\u1eady. \u0110\u1ed1i v\u1edbi t\u00f4i, Gi\u00e1o h\u1ed9i Tin L\u00e0nh Luther lo\u1ea1i tr\u1eeb m\u1ea7u nhi\u1ec7m \u0111\u1ee9c tin. Th\u1ebf nh\u01b0ng, tin l\u00e0 ch\u1ea5p nh\u1eadn n\u00f3. \u0110\u1ee9c tin kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 \u0111\u1ea1t \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c b\u1eb1ng l\u00fd tr\u00ed. \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t tr\u1ea3i nghi\u1ec7m, n\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i x\u1ea3y ra. Sau khi r\u1eddi Gi\u00e1o h\u1ed9i Tin L\u00e0nh Luther, t\u00f4i v\u1eabn l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t t\u00edn h\u1eefu nh\u01b0ng kh\u00f4ng bi\u1ebft ph\u1ea3i quay v\u1ec1 \u0111\u00e2u. Ti\u1ebfp \u0111\u1ebfn, t\u00f4i th\u1ea5y m\u00ecnh h\u1ea1nh ph\u00fac v\u1edbi Gi\u00e1o h\u1ed9i Tin L\u00e0nh Quakers (1) v\u00e0, \u1edf m\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 kh\u00eda c\u1ea1nh, t\u00f4i ti\u1ebfp t\u1ee5c tin t\u01b0\u1edfng nh\u01b0 h\u1ecd. \u0110\u1ed1i v\u1edbi h\u1ecd c\u0169ng nh\u01b0 \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi t\u00f4i, \u0111i\u1ec1u quan tr\u1ecdng nh\u1ea5t, \u0111\u00f3 kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 c\u00e1c b\u00ed t\u00edch, t\u00edn l\u00fd, linh m\u1ee5c, m\u00e0 l\u00e0 s\u1ef1 hi\u1ec7n di\u1ec7n c\u1ee7a Thi\u00ean Ch\u00faa n\u01a1i b\u1ea1n v\u00e0 gi\u1eefa c\u00e1c t\u00edn h\u1eefu. Tuy nhi\u00ean, \u0111\u00e2y c\u0169ng l\u00e0 \u00fd ngh\u0129a c\u1ee7a B\u00ed t\u00edch Th\u00e1nh Th\u1ec3, tr\u1ecdng t\u00e2m c\u1ee7a th\u00e1nh l\u1ec5 C\u00f4ng gi\u00e1o: n\u00f3 cho ph\u00e9p ch\u00fang ta \u0111\u1ebfn g\u1ea7n Thi\u00ean Ch\u00faa h\u01a1n.<\/p>\n \u0110\u1ecdc T\u00f4n s\u01b0 Eckhart (2) \u0111\u00e3 mang t\u00ednh quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh tr\u00ean cu\u1ed9c h\u00e0nh tr\u00ecnh d\u00e0i \u0111\u1ec3 tr\u1edf th\u00e0nh ng\u01b0\u1eddi C\u00f4ng gi\u00e1o. \u00d4ng h\u00ecnh dung th\u00e1nh l\u1ec5 nh\u01b0 sau n\u00e0y nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi Quakers s\u1ebd l\u00e0m, h\u1ecd gi\u1eef thinh l\u1eb7ng v\u00e0 nh\u1eafm m\u1eaft, ng\u1ed3i th\u00e0nh v\u00f2ng tr\u00f2n \u0111\u1ec3 t\u1eadp trung v\u00e0o \u00e1nh s\u00e1ng n\u1ed9i t\u00e2m. T\u00f4i c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y r\u1eb1ng vi\u1ec7c l\u1eb7p l\u1ea1i v\u00f4 t\u1eadn b\u1ea3n v\u0103n ph\u1ee5ng v\u1ee5 trong th\u00e1nh l\u1ec5 c\u0169ng d\u1eabn \u0111\u1ebfn s\u1ef1 g\u1ea7n g\u0169i v\u1edbi Thi\u00ean Ch\u00faa, n\u1ebfu t\u00f4i c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 n\u00f3i nh\u01b0 v\u1eady. C\u00e0ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c l\u1eb7p \u0111i l\u1eb7p l\u1ea1i, m\u1ed9t ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef im l\u1eb7ng cu\u1ed1i c\u00f9ng s\u1ebd \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c n\u00f3i th\u00f4ng qua ch\u00fang.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> \u201cCh\u00ednh trong thinh l\u1eb7ng m\u00e0 ch\u00fang ta nghe th\u1ea5y ti\u1ebfng Ch\u00faa\u201d, \u00f4ng vi\u1ebft trong Septologie, cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft m\u1edbi nh\u1ea5t c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng. C\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i v\u00ec th\u1ebf m\u00e0 \u00f4ng d\u00e0nh nhi\u1ec1u ch\u1ed7 cho s\u1ef1 thinh l\u1eb7ng trong t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m c\u1ee7a m\u00ecnh?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> C\u00e2u n\u00e0y quy chi\u1ebfu \u0111\u1ebfn c\u00e1ch th\u1ee9c m\u1ed9t t\u00edn h\u1eefu c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 nghe th\u1ea5y ti\u1ebfng n\u00f3i c\u1ee7a Thi\u00ean Ch\u00faa, ch\u1ee9 kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i \u0111\u1ebfn l\u1ed1i vi\u1ebft c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i. N\u00f3i nh\u01b0 v\u1eady, t\u00f4i c\u00f3 c\u1ea3m gi\u00e1c m\u00ecnh \u0111\u00e3 vi\u1ebft t\u1ed1t khi thi\u1ebft l\u1eadp \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c m\u1ed9t ki\u1ec3u thinh l\u1eb7ng v\u00e0 khi t\u00f4i bi\u1ebft r\u1eb1ng ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef th\u1ee9 hai, n\u1eb1m gi\u1eefa c\u00e1c t\u1eeb ng\u1eef, trong kho\u1ea3ng tr\u1ed1ng, c\u0169ng n\u00f3i l\u00ean \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3. Ch\u00ednh l\u00e0 nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf k\u1ec3 t\u1eeb khi t\u00f4i b\u1eaft \u0111\u1ea7u vi\u1ebft v\u0103n v\u00e0o n\u0103m 12 tu\u1ed5i. Nh\u01b0ng t\u1ea1i sao, th\u00ec t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng bi\u1ebft. T\u00f4i vi\u1ebft nh\u01b0 t\u00f4i vi\u1ebft. R\u1ea5t kh\u00f3 \u0111\u1ec3 hi\u1ec3u b\u1ea3n th\u00e2n b\u1ea1n nh\u01b0 m\u1ed9t nh\u00e0 v\u0103n.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> L\u00e0m sao c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 ch\u1eafc ch\u1eafn r\u1eb1ng ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1ecdc hi\u1ec3u \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c \u201cng\u00f4n ng\u1eef thinh l\u1eb7ng\u201d n\u00e0y?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> Khi t\u00f4i vi\u1ebft, t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng ngh\u0129 \u0111\u1ebfn \u0111\u1ed9c gi\u1ea3 c\u1ee5 th\u1ec3 n\u00e0o. T\u1ed5ng qu\u00e1t h\u01a1n, t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 k\u1ebf ho\u1ea1ch, kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 \u00fd \u0111\u1ecbnh. T\u00f4i ch\u1ec9 c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng vi\u1ebft \u0111\u00fang v\u00e0 t\u1ed1t nh\u1ea5t c\u00f3 th\u1ec3. \u0110\u1ec3 l\u00e0m \u0111i\u1ec1u n\u00e0y, t\u00f4i ng\u1ed3i xu\u1ed1ng b\u00e0n v\u00e0 b\u1eaft \u0111\u1ea7u vi\u1ebft. Khi n\u00f3 kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u1ebfn, t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng t\u00ecm c\u00e1ch \u00e9p bu\u1ed9c m\u1ecdi th\u1ee9. T\u00f4i ch\u1edd. N\u1ebfu t\u00f4i ph\u1ea3i t\u00ecm m\u1ed9t t\u1eeb \u0111\u1ec3 m\u00f4 t\u1ea3 qu\u00e1 tr\u00ecnh n\u00e0y, th\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 s\u1ebd l\u00e0 \u201cl\u1eafng nghe\u201d. T\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 n\u00f3i cho b\u1ea1n bi\u1ebft \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec, nh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i l\u1eafng nghe \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 khi t\u00f4i vi\u1ebft, \u0111i\u1ec1u g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 \u0111\u1ebfn t\u1eeb n\u01a1i kh\u00e1c.<\/p>\n \u0110\u00f3 kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t gi\u1ecdng n\u00f3i \u0111\u1ecdc cho t\u00f4i vi\u1ebft c\u00e1c c\u00e2u, c\u0169ng kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i m\u1ed9t \u0111\u1ed3ng c\u1ed1t, n\u00f3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t kho\u1ea3ng tr\u1ed1ng, m\u1ed9t th\u1ee9 m\u00e0 t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng nh\u00ecn th\u1ea5y v\u00e0 t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng nh\u1edb. \u0110\u00f4i khi, t\u00f4i th\u1eadm ch\u00ed c\u00f2n c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y m\u00ecnh ch\u1ec9 c\u1ea7n vi\u1ebft m\u1ecdi th\u1ee9 ra gi\u1ea5y tr\u01b0\u1edbc khi ch\u00fang bi\u1ebfn m\u1ea5t, theo c\u00e1ch c\u1ee7a m\u1ed9t th\u01b0 k\u00fd. Ngh\u1ec7 thu\u1eadt n\u1ea3y sinh, \u0111\u1ec3 tr\u00edch d\u1eabn Martin Heidegger, ng\u01b0\u1eddi m\u00e0 t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 nghi\u00ean c\u1ee9u r\u1ea5t nhi\u1ec1u. C\u00e1ch hi\u1ec3u v\u1ec1 s\u1ef1 t\u1ed3n t\u1ea1i c\u1ee7a con ng\u01b0\u1eddi v\u00e0 th\u1eadm ch\u00ed c\u1ea3 ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng \u0111\u00e3 \u1ea3nh h\u01b0\u1edfng \u0111\u1ebfn t\u00f4i nhi\u1ec1u h\u01a1n b\u1ea5t k\u1ef3 t\u00e1c gi\u1ea3 n\u00e0o kh\u00e1c.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> Tuy nhi\u00ean, \u00f4ng c\u00f3 cho r\u1eb1ng c\u00f3 t\u00e1c gi\u1ea3 n\u00e0o \u0111\u00e3 \u1ea3nh h\u01b0\u1edfng \u0111\u1ebfn \u00f4ng kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> C\u00f3, v\u0103n h\u1ecdc b\u1eaft ngu\u1ed3n t\u1eeb v\u0103n h\u1ecdc theo m\u1ed9t c\u00e1ch n\u00e0o \u0111\u00f3. T\u1eebng h\u1ecdc tri\u1ebft h\u1ecdc v\u00e0 v\u0103n h\u1ecdc so s\u00e1nh, t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ecdc r\u1ea5t nhi\u1ec1u v\u00e0 t\u1ea5t c\u1ea3 c\u00e1c t\u00e1c gi\u1ea3 t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ecdc \u0111\u1ec1u \u1ea3nh h\u01b0\u1edfng \u0111\u1ebfn t\u00f4i c\u1ea3 v\u1edbi t\u01b0 c\u00e1ch m\u1ed9t con ng\u01b0\u1eddi l\u1eabn m\u1ed9t nh\u00e0 v\u0103n. Nh\u01b0ng m\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 c\u00f3 \u1ea3nh nhi\u1ec1u h\u01a1n nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi kh\u00e1c. \u1ea2nh h\u01b0\u1edfng m\u1ea1nh m\u1ebd nh\u1ea5t l\u00e0 c\u1ee7a Martin Heidegger. Trong v\u0103n h\u1ecdc, t\u00f4i mu\u1ed1n nh\u1eafc \u0111\u1ebfn t\u00e1c gi\u1ea3 ng\u01b0\u1eddi Na Uy Tarjei Vesaas (3). Ngo\u00e0i ra, khi c\u00f2n tr\u1ebb, t\u00f4i r\u1ea5t say m\u00ea t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m c\u1ee7a Samuel Beckett. Khi vi\u1ebft v\u1edf k\u1ecbch \u0111\u1ea7u ti\u00ean, t\u00f4i th\u1eadm ch\u00ed c\u00f2n s\u1ee3 m\u00ecnh s\u1ebd b\u1eaft ch\u01b0\u1edbc \u00f4ng.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> C\u00e1c v\u0103n b\u1ea3n c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 khi\u1ebfn ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1ecdc b\u1ed1i r\u1ed1i, nh\u01b0 cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft m\u1edbi nh\u1ea5t c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng, <\/em>Septologie<\/em>, ch\u1ec9 bao g\u1ed3m m\u1ed9t c\u00e2u r\u1ea5t d\u00e0i. \u00d4ng c\u00f3 hi\u1ec3u n\u00f3 kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> T\u00f4i hi\u1ec3u r\u1eb1ng m\u1ed9t v\u0103n b\u1ea3n nh\u01b0 v\u1eady c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 khi\u1ebfn s\u1ee3 h\u00e3i, m\u1eb7c d\u00f9 h\u1ea7u h\u1ebft \u0111\u1ed9c gi\u1ea3 kh\u00f4ng c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y kh\u00f3 kh\u0103n v\u00ec c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y b\u1ecb cu\u1ed1n theo m\u1ed9t d\u00f2ng ch\u1ea3y n\u00e0o \u0111\u00f3. Nh\u01b0ng m\u1ed9t l\u1ea7n n\u1eefa, t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng l\u00e0m h\u00e0i l\u00f2ng b\u1ea3n th\u00e2n hay ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u1ecdc. T\u00f4i ch\u1ec9 c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng vi\u1ebft ch\u00ednh x\u00e1c nh\u1ea5t c\u00f3 th\u1ec3. N\u0103m 1983, cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ea7u ti\u00ean c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c \u0111\u00f3n nh\u1eadn \u1edf Na Uy. Nh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh kh\u00f4ng nghe nh\u1eefng l\u1eddi ch\u1ec9 tr\u00edch v\u00e0 \u0111i theo con \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng c\u1ee7a m\u00ecnh.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> \u0110\u00e2y c\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 l\u1eddi khuy\u00ean d\u00e0nh cho m\u1ed9t nh\u00e0 v\u0103n tr\u1ebb?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> V\u00e2ng, ch\u1ec9 l\u1eafng nghe nh\u1eefng g\u00ec b\u00ean trong b\u1ea1n.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> \u201cCh\u00ednh lu\u00f4n lu\u00f4n \u1edf trong b\u00f3ng t\u1ed1i m\u00e0 m\u1ed9t h\u00ecnh \u1ea3nh thu \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c nhi\u1ec1u \u00e1nh s\u00e1ng h\u01a1n\u201d, \u00f4ng \u0111\u1ec3 cho Asle, nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt ch\u00ednh c\u1ee7a <\/em>Septologie, n\u00f3i<\/em>. C\u00e2u n\u00e0y c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 gi\u00fap \u0111\u1ed9c gi\u1ea3 hi\u1ec3u t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng v\u00e0 v\u01b0\u1ee3t qua kh\u00f3 kh\u0103n b\u1ec1 ngo\u00e0i c\u1ee7a n\u00f3 kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> C\u00f3 l\u1ebd, t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng ch\u1eafc l\u1eafm. Tr\u00e1i l\u1ea1i, \u0111i\u1ec1u t\u00f4i bi\u1ebft, \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 trong cu\u1ed9c \u0111\u1eddi t\u00f4i, ch\u00ednh gi\u1eefa c\u1ea3nh t\u1ed1i t\u0103m t\u1ed3i t\u1ec7 nh\u1ea5t m\u00e0 Thi\u00ean Ch\u00faa \u0111\u00e3 \u1edf g\u1ea7n t\u00f4i nh\u1ea5t. V\u00e0, \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi t\u00f4i, vi\u1ebft v\u0103n \u0111\u00e3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t c\u00e1ch s\u1ed1ng, th\u1eadm ch\u00ed c\u00f3 l\u1ebd l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t c\u00e1ch s\u1ed1ng c\u00f2n.<\/p>\n La Croix:<\/strong> B\u00e0i ph\u00e1t bi\u1ec3u nh\u1eadn gi\u1ea3i Nobel c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng d\u1ef1 ki\u1ebfn <\/em>\u200b\u200b<\/em>s\u1ebd di\u1ec5n ra v\u00e0o th\u1ee9 N\u0103m, ng\u00e0y 7 th\u00e1ng 12. \u00d4ng c\u00f3 \u00fd \u0111\u1ecbnh s\u1eed d\u1ee5ng di\u1ec5n \u0111\u00e0n n\u00e0y \u0111\u1ec3 g\u1eedi th\u00f4ng \u0111i\u1ec7p ch\u00ednh tr\u1ecb nh\u01b0 nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi kh\u00e1c \u0111\u00e3 t\u1eebng l\u00e0m tr\u01b0\u1edbc \u00f4ng kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/p>\n Jon Fosse:<\/strong> \u0110\u1ed1i v\u1edbi t\u00f4i, th\u1eadt kh\u00f3 \u0111\u1ec3 vi\u1ebft m\u1ed9t b\u00e0i ph\u00e1t bi\u1ec3u. T\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng quen v\u1edbi h\u00ecnh th\u1ee9c \u0111\u1ed9c tho\u1ea1i n\u00e0y, t\u00f4i vi\u1ebft ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft v\u00e0 \u0111\u00f4i khi l\u00e0 ti\u1ec3u lu\u1eadn, nh\u01b0ng b\u00e0i ti\u1ec3u lu\u1eadn cu\u1ed1i c\u00f9ng c\u00f3 t\u1eeb n\u0103m 2000. Gi\u1ea3 s\u1eed r\u1eb1ng t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 \u0111\u1ea1t \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c m\u1ed9t lo\u1ea1i ph\u00e1t bi\u1ec3u n\u00e0o \u0111\u00f3, \u0111i\u1ec1u m\u00e0 t\u00f4i r\u1ea5t h\u00e0i l\u00f2ng.<\/p>\n N\u1ebfu n\u00f3 ch\u1ee9a m\u1ed9t th\u00f4ng \u0111i\u1ec7p, th\u00ec th\u00f4ng \u0111i\u1ec7p n\u00e0y nh\u1eafm \u0111\u1ebfn nh\u1eefng con ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111ang tr\u1ea3i qua th\u1eddi k\u1ef3 kh\u00f3 kh\u0103n, nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111ang c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y m\u1ed9t h\u00ecnh th\u1ee9c tuy\u1ec7t v\u1ecdng ho\u1eb7c lo l\u1eafng. T\u00f4i c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng ch\u00eca tay ra cho h\u1ecd. T\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng bi\u1ebft li\u1ec7u \u0111\u00f3 c\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 ch\u00ednh tr\u1ecb kh\u00f4ng…<\/p>\n —————————————<\/p>\n (1)<\/em> Phong tr\u00e0o \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c th\u00e0nh l\u1eadp v\u00e0o th\u1ebf k\u1ef7 17 \u1edf Anh b\u1edfi nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi b\u1ea5t \u0111\u1ed3ng ch\u00ednh ki\u1ebfn \u200b\u200bv\u1edbi Gi\u00e1o h\u1ed9i Anh gi\u00e1o. Sau \u0111\u00f3 n\u00f3 lan sang T\u00e2y \u00c2u v\u00e0 th\u1ebf gi\u1edbi Anglo-Saxon.<\/em><\/p>\n (2)<\/em> Th\u1ea7n h\u1ecdc gia d\u00f2ng \u0110a Minh sinh n\u0103m 1260 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c coi l\u00e0 cha \u0111\u1ebb c\u1ee7a tr\u00e0o l\u01b0u th\u1ea7n b\u00ed v\u00f9ng Rh\u00e9nanie, t\u1eeb th\u1ebf k\u1ef7 XIII \u0111\u1ebfn th\u1ebf k\u1ef7 XIV . T\u00ednh th\u1ea7n b\u00ed c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng d\u1ef1a tr\u00ean hai tr\u1ee5 c\u1ed9t: ch\u1ec9 c\u00f3 s\u1ef1 si\u00eau tho\u00e1t m\u1edbi cho ph\u00e9p ti\u1ebfn b\u1ed9 trong \u0111\u1eddi s\u1ed1ng t\u00e2m linh; ch\u00ednh Ch\u00faa Ba Ng\u00f4i ng\u1ef1 tr\u1ecb trong t\u00e2m h\u1ed3n c\u1ee7a ng\u01b0\u1eddi bu\u00f4ng m\u00ecnh cho Thi\u00ean Ch\u00faa.<\/p>\n (3)<\/em> Les Oiseaux<\/em>, xu\u1ea5t b\u1ea3n n\u0103m 1957, \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c coi l\u00e0 ki\u1ec7t t\u00e1c c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng. \u1ede Ph\u00e1p, n\u00f3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c xu\u1ea5t b\u1ea3n b\u1edfi nh\u00e0 xu\u1ea5t b\u1ea3n Cambourakis, 264 trang, 22\u20ac.<\/p>\n ——————————————————<\/em><\/p>\n T\u00fd Linh chuy\u1ec3n ng\u1eef<\/em><\/p>\n (ngu\u1ed3n : nh\u1eadt b\u00e1o La Croix<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Nh\u00e0 v\u0103n ng\u01b0\u1eddi Na Uy Jon Fosse, ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u00e3 nh\u1eadn gi\u1ea3i Nobel V\u0103n ch\u01b0\u01a1ng v\u00e0o th\u1ee9 N\u0103m ng\u00e0y 7\/12\/2023 t\u1ea1i Stockholm, \u0111\u00e3 d\u00e0nh m\u1ed9t cu\u1ed9c […]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":27728,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[32,33,8,48,122],"tags":[168],"class_list":["post-27726","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-nhan-ban","category-tam-linh","category-the-gioi","category-ty-linh","category-duc-tin-ly-tri","tag-cac-thanh-nhan-vat"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27726","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27726"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27726\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27736,"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27726\/revisions\/27736"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/27728"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27726"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27726"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xuanbichvietnam.net\/trangchu\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27726"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}